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It sounds like we need to create some weep holes, but not sure if this can be done at this stage. The drain in the shower started getting small holes in it & eventually we ended up with grout washing down the drain. Thoughts on which option is better? I just wanted to say thank you Todd. You mentioned caulking on plane changes and cited wall to floor and wall to tub edge as examples. As to whether or not it’s needed: Caulk or silicone is not TECHNICALLY needed, as it doesn’t do anything in regards to waterproofing. What it does do is allow two different planes to expand and contract in different directions without compromising the joint. Precautions must still be taken but the Epoxy is strong enough to withstand normal structural movement. You must seal your now clean and dry grout with grout sealer. Any suggestions? Saw some large cultured marble floor tiles and thresholds at HD and Lowes that would need to be cut down. It will not stay if the grout has no grout line to hold onto – if it is simply attempting to grab onto the face of the tiles at a 90 degree angle. That would make it incorrectly installed. Your advice will be gratefully received (unless it’s take the shower out and start again! If one tiled surface meets another at a different angle, it should be caulked or siliconed. Thanks so much for the article. We will be renovating the bathroom next summer. 1) you can not caulk or grout over existing grout. I do mean absolutely. Is there something I can lay on the floor…cardboard, plastic sheeting, etc…that will allow repair and still use the bathroom.. Nona – It’s not a matter of walking in the center of the tiles, you really shouldn’t walk on it at all. Jeff Patterson says: October 22, 2014 at 5:39 AM . As the framing materials dry out then shrink, twist and become distorted. It was some time before we ever had a shower because we were waiting on plumbers – who fitted the shower and the glass panel and door. Lastly, if moisture is a problem it sounds like the surrounding drainage is an issue as well. The thresholds work well, you can ‘polish’ the edge of the threshold by coating it with an enhancing sealer, or sanding it (orbital or vibrating sander) with progressive grits up to about 2000 or so, the shine will match the finished surface. I want to use caulk, but thought you had to grout underneath, oops. There are several advantages to using caulk in corners and any other area where there may be a plane change or where tile meets another material such as your bathtub or sink. This problem tends to happen more often with new construction due to the drastic changes in moisture content in the framing materials. Is that ok? I am new to running my own tiling business and want to use Spectralock 1 grout on all my jobs–it is a new Laticrete pre-mix with epoxy strength. There is also a 4×1 transom window on one of the three tiled walls. Always leave a joint for silicone. We also put a sealer over the tile when we finished. ;) ). If it's normal cementious grout, he would use water from the hose. Hi Todd. The second “repair” lasted about 3 months when last week I noticed that once again the grout was staying wet in that corner as compared to the rest of the shower; the moisture seems to be wicking up about 2-3” from the corner, and also across the bottom towards the right. We suspect that the grout is cracking due to movement (the shower is installed in a bathroom bump out and over a crawl space, and against two exterior walls—though they were reframed and well insulated during the remodel). Hairline cracks develop routinely in grout where two surfaces meet at 90 degrees, like wall/floor intersections, etc. I’ve just finished tiling the bathtub walls and two questions if possible . Sounds like you might want to contact another tile guy and get a 2nd opinion. (the sanded vs. non-sanded actually doesn’t have anything to do with it.) Tile is 4×12 with 1/16″ joint. Our house is about 40 yrs old. By clicking on 'Accept' or continuing to use this website, you agree that cookies can be placed. It’ll leave scratches. Choose the correct type of grout based on the width of your tile joints and the location of the repair. Insulating basement walls in cold climates is a great way to keep your home warmer and drier. I want to use it in change of plane as well to eliminate caulk from our showers. Why are some pros so against epoxy in the corners? The instructions for this caulk specifically state it is for use in “predominantly dry areas”– and so I am mystified why it would be considered appropriate for a shower vs. using a matching silicone caulk. I assume at least one on each wall, or perhaps two along the longer (~5 ft) wall (the opposing side is a knee wall w/a niche, and a glass door). We were fortunate when we were just learning we had a gentleman who owned his own tile company later selling it to a son. A couple of years ago, I had a cermaic tile floor put in my 1st floor. Recently I was fortunate enough to have my dream bathroom become a reality.. We hired a licensed contractor do the work. We had radient heat put in the floor and hired a professional tile guy who tiled the entire bathroom. Whether you have drywall, backerboard, or a membrane, if you go far enough behind the tile, you’ll find wood. You can use a simple Grout Removal Kit or I prefer using a Dremel 568 Grout Removal Kit which attaches to my Dremel Tool or the Rockwell Sonicrafter. I just recently put up a backsplash and after apply non-sanded grout I am noticing a lot of hairline cracks all throughout. Our installer did not seal where tub meets tile/grout. Industry standards state that a flexible material be used at all changes of plane. For instance, where the crack is present in the grout, it makes a zig zag crack in some areas which extends the white grout and then the actual beige tile has some crack. I hope you find a good solution. Any ideas on how to “dirty up” the new white grout? Thanks! I like the idea to not have to worry about maintenance with grout until it starts cracking. If you google pink mold you’ll find several ways to get rid of it. Thank you, Ranada. Ok just bought a house and moved in my tile looks like wood planks but there porcelain we noticed some of the grout is cracking and I’m not sure how to properly fix it I think the floors are pretty new but not sure. Can you be more specific? The grout that was used for this project was an un-sanded grout which should be capable of filling the narrow cracks. However, I am prepared to fix this myself eventually. I am worried about creating a water damn of some sort. I believe we have one overcast day a year lol! Hi Rodger , I’m a newbie that just found the your super helpful Site . Initially she … I cleaned off the grout line a couple of times and then washed the surrounding tiles. I have had the guy come back and refilled already and his answer was that is all we can do…. Hi Todd, While I found your site extremely informative I am wondering… A little background, my home was built in 83, I think the bathroom is original to the house. 1. He did NOT use any silicone caulk. Good luck. ... Clean up with clear water or mop floor if needed. If so then you don’t need to do anything with it – gravity makes everything work correctly. What is the process? The problem is that there is grout haze at the bottom edge of the wall tiles from where I tried to patch up the old grout in the past. I did speak with the original installer, who strongly asserts that the waterproofing was carefully done, stating that he extended the rubber liner base 8″ up the wall, and applied a liquid waterproofer over the durarock. It’s normal. Spoke with Lowe's and they assigned Re-Bath for the project. The weep hole I mentioned will likely solve the issue by allowing water running down the wall to exit onto the floor (above the tile, rather than beneath it). Grout doesn’t last forever but it should get through 5 years or more unless there are really hard conditions. Was too much water added to the grout? If it’s cracked this soon I think it may have been mixed improperly, with too much water. If this barrier is around the entire perimeter, it may still just be showing up at that corner, if that corner happens to be the lowest point of the perimeter. You really need a minimum of 3/4″ plywood, glued, nailed (preferably screwed), then a tile backer, either cement board or a product like Ditra Schluter. I also am not sure even if we remove the grout, how caulking just that corner will look given that the grout and caulk have such different textures, but my husband’s first instinct is to keep it simple and repair the current problem and deal with any future problems as they arise. Siliconing over the grout will only exacerbate the situation as it seals the grout and does not allow it to dry out through the grout lines – it traps more moisture. There HAS to be something there preventing that. Measure the space between the tile. In 2011, we installed 18″ porcelain tile. Thank you for your recent reply. Melissa – If you have a way to find out what grout was used previously, then I’d install more grout. It also keeps stuff out of that joint – stuff like mold or spaghetti sauce…. I am yet to find out about this by May 2021. Hey Todd. For Example: Foundation Drain, Framing, Cracking, etc. All the grout (sanded) along all the joints throughout the new construction house cracked; the cracks all seem less than 1/16″ wide (is that “hairline”?). SurfaceGard maximum strength sealer. It is not your grout turning pink. The gaps are 3/16”. It's formulated with epoxy and acrylic to restore laminate and other synthetic materials , leaving counters with a smooth, durable, scratch-resistant finish. What is the sub-floor? There are some places the crackes seems to be getting wider. Hi Todd. I am grateful also that you have confirmed that the silicone caulking may exacerbate the underlying issue and that we need to ensure that any water that may get trapped behind the tile has a path to the drain, even if has to be above the floor. Thomasville has alot more "gadgetry" and storage convininences but thier finish looks cheap and thier box construction is the same as the cheap stock ones at LOWE'S. I bought you liquid waterproofing ebook and it was a great help. Karen – without seeing the situation it’s hard to say what the best solution is. He filled 1 in with sanded caulk. Concrete moves, (the ground beneath it) that’s why it has expansion joints – to control where the movement goes. I normally just avoid the corners when grouting and scrape out any grout that does get in there. The only way I get it (the mold/mildew off the grout) really clean is with a pressure washer. Wish I could offer more advice, but from what I’m hearing it sounds like you need a slab more than anything. Doesn’t have a finished edge though. I was wondering if you have any info on repairing grout on a pier and beam sub-floor. Cannot afford to have someone come in to do right now. The tile went on nicely, but about a month later, the grout started coming out in chunks around the tiles. If there is any movement the caulk is flexible enough to move with it and remain in place. Given the above parameters I believe caulk to always be the best choice. However, this installer says he has used this same type of caulk (not silicone) for many years and he has never had an issue. Could you please give us some advice? Also do I caulk/silicone changes of plane before grouting or vice versa? Then afterward, caulking over the corner. I can add that in that corner, there is very little gap between the floor and wall tile, and a because a sanded grout was used instead of unsanded, I am not sure if that is contributing to the problem and perhaps the tile can’t hold on to the grout and this is why the grout failed so quickly after the install. You seem pretty confident that epoxy will be okay in the corners. It simply describes the corner or edge of any surface that changes direction such as a corner, a wall to a floor, or a wall to the tub edge. You will need to remove the old grout. All the walls have been cleaned and the grout bleached, but 75 years of ingrained dust is hard to get rid of completely. The grout lines in the tile walls are quite thin, and one three inch long crack has appeared in the grout along one wall that is very narrow. Without knowing the specifics it sure sounds to me that the plywood sub-base that supports the tile is probably not stiff enough. Alysa – Without knowing all the details it’s quite hard to determine the cause. Do you think that the larger floor chunks could be due to the radient heat? This handheld wet tile saw uses a 12-foot plastic tube to keep a continuous stream of water on the blade as it cuts through tile material. I have sealed all the grout, everywhere in the shower a couple weeks after we started using the shower everyday. Now we have 3 places on our floors that are from 1/8″-1/2 long where the grout looks like it pulled away from the edge of the tile. That’s why you need to have everything waterproofed correctly before any tile is installed. We dried it out for >3 days and re applied seal. There is a tool for this and I believe you can buy them at Home Depot. Mike – Nothing I know of….even if you found something like that…with that much movement it’s likely the tile will crack. That simply means that if you are using sanded grout you cannot butt the tiles against each other at the corner and expect to be able to force grout into it. I’ve decided to have my privacy violated and start putting things on Facebook. HA! Thanks again. I’m a bit meticulous and a perfectionist, not sure that really makes much difference helping solve your issue tho. Probably needs to be removed and replaced. (Home Depot or tile shop). This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. I am currently using Laticrete permacolor select as my goto grout – it’s good stuff too. You MAY get away with the tile to tub transition, but if there is excess movement and you have an acrylic tub the tub may actually end up cracking before the tile. Either works, but silicone works better. In my new construction home, we have a standing shower (tiled walls and floor). Enter keywords like, 'insulation' or 'kitchens' etc to find your topic. Thank you for all of your help. It’s simply cylindrical foam used to fill empty space before caulking. i.e. After only a few months, he grout is cracking around the tub, window and walls. Its two glass panes come in clear glass, with colonial grills optional for a traditional look, and a choice of a nickel or brass handleset. I am going to use either latasil or laticrete premium acrylic caulk for the changes of plane. Finally, I watched the video by laticrete on how to install the latasil and they were using some type of “gasket” in the changes of plane prior to the latasil. However, special care should be used when insulating…, Get 10% of with a Lowes Coupon NOTE: Home Construction & Improvement is not affiliated with Lowe's. When ever you install ceramic tile you really should keep some of the grout stored in a cool dry place for future repairs. Also there is grout sealer you can add when mixing grout, epoxy for grouting and you can buy premixed grout. I have developed grout cracks in my patio tile, house built 5 years ago. Previous post: How Large Should Grout Lines Be? What they mean about diff colors is if you partially grout one day, and don't finish. My only guess is that enough water penetrates the grout to reach the underlying sheet rock, and then slowly seeps to the adjacent corner where it becomes visible. Much has happened since I first posted my query. We want to replace the tile with the floating laminate flooring. Our tiles are 18 inch squares.The instructions said not to walk on it for 24 hours. Tiles start at the base of the bathtub & go up to the ceiling. Would the wall that is having a leak be an interior wall? We moved into the house in August 2020. In that case the water would run behind the tile down the wall and onto the floor (also under the tile) and into the weep holes in the drain (which are a standard part of the drain). It is commonly referred to as ‘pink mold’. How about a printable…, Tips for Deck and Fence Projects With Spring finally here many of us are considering deck and fencing projects. Lonnie – You can grout just small areas. We have discovered that water seems to be getting to the sheet rock walls that abut the tile, as the sheet rock slowly becomes damp over a couple of weeks of using the shower. One of the most asked questions by do-it-yourselfer’s is whether they should use caulk or grout in the corners. I’ve been seeing cracked grout issues, particularly along the edge where the floor tiles meet the wall tiles. I run their design-build division that specializes in custom homes, commercial design-build projects and sub-divisions. The big advantages of using grout here is that it will match all the grout lines and it will never have to be replaced. (See below for recommendations on repairing larger cracks in grout using a Dremel 568 Grout Removal Kit). Taking structural movement into consideration caulk is, for me, the logical choice. I don’t care what they say, construction always has wood somewhere that can move. In a sealed system (tiled floor as well) it is normally behind all the tile, but it still ends up at the drain. Thank you so much for this helpful article. We just had our shower completely redone and it’s been about one week and the grout (unsanded) is showing cracking, crumbling and pinholes. I made the grout a little wetter than I normally would so that I could get it forced into the thin crack. Great question….no idea…maybe some type of natural “stain”…tea? Is that normal? Can I silicone the next day. It can also be caused by hard water deposits. Typically this happens where two perpendicular faces come together. Wood moves, it’s just a fact of life. The floor is honed marble rosa verona Many Thanks! On the floor it has even come out in small chunks. This was put on floor to hold tiles to floor. Will be touching up some small cracks in the grout, but wonder how long I should allow to dry prior to regrouting. Waterproofing a shower is all about water management. How do I fill in all these pitted spots? Latasil will work better, it’s silicone. In this article I'd like to discuss how to insulate basement walls in cold climates. The space between the tiles at the change of plane must be large enough (for sanded grout) or small enough (for non-sanded grout) to be able to support the grout. Can you clarify exactly where we should cut these weep holes (I assume along the floor) and how many? My guess would be that he installed a bead of silicone at the bottom of the wall for some ridiculous reason. Stephanie, Silicone is only aesthetic in that particular application. If that is something I need to use… Then what is it? Keep in mind the small cracks have been there about 6 plus months and we are just now getting around to regrouting…. We had the shower tiled by a professional tiler. We just did over the entie bathroom right down to the studs. I’ve tried every sealant / water proff product at Lowe’s/Home Depot. For example, where a tiled wall meets a tiled counter top or floor.We have this problem in or master bathroom in a few places on the whirlpool tub surround. That being the case, I will discuss using grout first. Stay on topic. Spacers-We used 14 inch spacers. My biggest concern is water intrusion, rainy season coming soon (I hope) Thank you. You can silicone immediately after grouting. Thanks for the speedy reply to my earlier comments, and for sharing your expertise. The first time my husband (as advised by the contractor, who does not live locally) dug out the wet grout (Mapei, sanded), allowed the space to dry for several days, replaced the grout and let it cure for two days, then applied sealer and allowed it to dry for two more days. Good Luck! If the shower was built correctly there is a waterproof pan under the tile so water shouldn’t be an issue. Sadly, in our case, it seems that the water was not properly making its way behind/under the tile to the drain, and thus after time, forcing its way past the grout (or sanded caulk) in that one corner. Do you have a traditional liner mud bed (the two layers with a liner between)? Also, after removing the cracked grout, do I need to clean the gap between the tiles with a mold remover or some cleaner and let it dry before caulking? I’m backwards like that. The water will run there. Before you do it I would clean the joint in that area and be sure that all the loose grout is removed. These cookies do not store any personal information. Looking for a Lowes Coupon? We realize we will probably have to remove, clean & recaulk every year. My hope is that I can share my experience in the home construction, home improvement and home renovation profession with other builders and home owners. Is grout water proof anyway? Copyright © 2009-2020 Front Steps Media, LLC. Is there a product that I can get between two adjacent tiles that essentially glues them together to eliminate relative movement and therefore grout failure? It’s not the technically proper way, but it does get the water to the drain and doesn’t trap it. Would this quick and dirty method work for grout used in control joints in a stained concrete floor? It’s just an open space where water can run out of the wall onto the floor, then down the drain. The water WILL get behind the tile. Humidity, weather, even the structure’s foundation all affect how much it moves. How wide are the grout joints? 4)I like using caulk where all 90 degree corners meet another tile wall or ceiling. Not sure I understand your question. Thanks. It is cause by permanently damp conditions (like a shower), especially at the bottom of the tile wall, which is where the water drains to. Be sure to check out everything about contact paper countertops and all the contact paper ideas you need to know! – if you ask a hundred different professionals you will … If you have wider cracks in the grout or missing grout then it’s time to consider removing the old grout and installing new grout between the tiles. My husband thinks this could be from the house settling. Most grout will get hairline cracks eventually but if it’s new that might be concerning. If removing grout is too messy a task, Lowe’s has solutions, like grout pens, grout stains and grout paint for your floor, backsplash or shower grout. We are getting tiny hairline cracks in our grout between tiles on the floor of the shower (not at the 90 degree wall joint). Thanks for the above comment. Do you grout everything, including the corners, then go back and scrap out the grout in the corners, then apply silicone? Elissa – Grout does not crack due to lack of sealant. If so this is an offer you can't afford to miss! 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